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Old Nov 01, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55   #1
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Default any tips for kilroy hard mode?

How the bleep do you do this consistently? I keep getting owned midway through.

I've been doing normal mode, but the drops are worse, and it's about 2x slower.
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Old Nov 01, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51   #2
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skill number 1 (block) is your friend.

when u see a group use skill 1. then skill 7 on your target(melee first rangers next). imidiatelly skill 3 and then skill 4 (4 should be charged by the damage u take and your 3 attacks) if target is still alive (and you should not wait to see if he dies so queue the attack just in case) skill2. that is 1 down.

skill 6 drops em down and 5 is the second major damage. after that make your own combos.

At the begining take killroy with you. later on when u feel better dealing with all the enemies you can ran by the 1st group of 2 (letting him die) and then go abouts yourself. u get more drops that way.

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Forgot to add. usually killroy dies at the first group, if he doesnt just leave the ones u attack so he dies at them. BUT always come back after u have finished the dungeon. the last ones are usually the ones that drop a lockpick or a gold on an otherwise dry run.

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Old Nov 01, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02   #3
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Add 9 and 0 as your 8th skill slot trigger and just spam 8,9,0, and left click to get up really quick.
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21   #4
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btw, do things absorbtion and strength work on the brawl mode? I know that dagger mastery increases your damage. I made a knight set with a sup absorb to minimize the damage you take.
Also, runes that lower daze and increase knockdown time..

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Old Nov 02, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #5
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One thing to make it easier is to attack whatever Kilroy's attacking. The two of you focusing on one target drops things much faster.

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At the begining take killroy with you. later on when u feel better dealing with all the enemies you can ran by the 1st group of 2 (letting him die) and then go abouts yourself. u get more drops that way.
NPCs don't take drops.
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32   #6
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however whenever i take killroy with me my drops are minimal. when i go alone i fill 25 to 30 spaces. care to explain why?
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #7
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however whenever i take killroy with me my drops are minimal. when i go alone i fill 25 to 30 spaces. care to explain why?
I can't explain that however i do second the point that NPC's do not take drops, you get guys like this in all of them and if it was true you would gain less drops with your minions or pets, but this doesnt happen either.
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12   #8
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i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain.
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #9
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i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain.
Yea i think the overfarming thing is still up, i just think that they removed the "flags" but if you overfarm one place they didnt take the code off they just didnt leave a way to make them come back again, that would proberably expalin your idea of losses of drops.
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Old Nov 04, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54   #10
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i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain.
Kilroy dont take drops.

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Old Nov 04, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50   #11
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dude that sure was a nice run of you....elite war tome and 3 rares...were they any good?
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Old Nov 04, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #12
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The thing is, if Kilroy kills the mob alone, you'll get no drop since you didn't do damage.
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Old Nov 04, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18   #13
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how on earth did you do that deluxe i got no golds when i did it

To the OP, spam block whenever you can, always start with the 2handed double 50 damage attack when it's available, attack the same foe as Kilroy, don't be afaraid to let kilroy go in first and take the damage and hit your highest powered skills when they are available.

Other that that good luck.
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Old Nov 05, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #14
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Its quite wired, did it on my derv and got 2 golds (crap but still :P) tried again on my ranger and all i got was a lockpick, its really random but keep trying
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Old Nov 07, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #15
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How do you do the run without Kilroy?
He's like a leech and is attached to you.
If you know away to get rid of him do share.
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Old Nov 07, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10   #16
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How do you do the run without Kilroy?
He's like a leech and is attached to you.
If you know away to get rid of him do share.
Simple, just let him run far enough ahead each time that he gets mowed down instantly, then step in and deal with the mob.

Also, since it hasn't been mentioned, clicking the 'STAND UP' skill along with hitting the corresponding number on the keyboard almost guarantees you won't fail this mission...even on HM.
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Old Nov 07, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #17
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may i ask wat this is?
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Old Nov 07, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59   #18
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Fronis Inrontoe's Lair A solo dungeon in EoTN in which you use a set skill bar and you are accompanied by Kilroy Stonekin. You can access this dungeon by taking the quest Kilroy Stonekin's Punch-Out Extravaganza!.

Can't say I see the appeal in farming this dungeon, did it once in HM to get Mastery points and to get it in Dungeon Guide. Is it good for Rep/Drops? I saw the screenshot above but I assume the runs aren't consistently this good?
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Old Nov 08, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #19
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The thing is, if Kilroy kills the mob alone, you'll get no drop since you didn't do damage.
Oh doesn't it suck to be a monk then?
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Old Nov 08, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51   #20
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Oh doesn't it suck to be a monk then?
let's take a look at what the guy directly above you said:
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Fronis Inrontoe's Lair A solo dungeon in EoTN in which you use a set skill bar and you are accompanied by Kilroy Stonekin.
as in a set skillbar with brawling only skills, every class has the same skillset so won't matter here...

and i reckon you don't get drops because he is a ally not a partymember, in contradiction to party members things he kills solo can't drop anything for you. (feel free to prove me wrong)

EDIT:
@Lurid and blue.rellik the difference i tried to state here is that of ally/party member and wether something they dmg would drop items..
(wich seems like when a ally kills something solo you get no chance of it dropping something for you, instead of a party member of you killing something wich does give you a chance of the drop)
btw did you guys even read?

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